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as he did in the singapore summit. >> so let's talk a little bit more about this. you think the president, who has gone overboard in his praise of vladimir putin, denied russian meddling, excused the annexation of crimea, do you think he's going to push putin on anything in this summit? >> no, of course not. he's not going to push back on any of that? >> why not? >> that's a great question. and hopefully at some point, to reference your previous segment, we'll get an answer from that. and i think our only hope really is the mueller investigation to finally clear the air on this. and to a certain extent with all the badgering by some of the republicans i think trey gowdy had a point that this is a cloud over the country and a president over the presidency. and it needs resolution. >> fair enough. but he says it's time to -- you know, i'm sure people would love for it to be over, right? i'm sure some on the left are hoping the outcome is terrible, the right is hoping there's nothing there.
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let's just get this over. but it just seems -- i don't know if ironic is the word or too cute by half on his side to say this has gone on long enough when he led investigations that went on twice as long. >> well, yes, yes. and congressman gowdy's investigation, benghazi was one of eight separate investigations, which in the end didn't come up with much. >> millions of dollars. >> the mueller investigation, which ran a lot shorter has already been a lot more productive. and the thing about at least in my mind about the mueller investigation is that bob mueller would not contrive its extension. he wouldn't make it any longer than he needed to. and what i sense here is that there's more to come. there's a lot more evidence to obtain and sift through. otherwise, if there was no there there, he would end it. >> director clapper, thank you,
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sir. always a pleasure. >> thanks, don. this is "cnn tonight." i'm don lemon. we have the latest for you. this time in "the capital gazette" in annapolis, maryland. five people are dead, two injured, the suspect in custody tonight. law enforcement sources identify him as jarrod warren ramose, a white man in his 30s who filed a defamation claim in 2012 against the paper. the case was dismissed. >> this was a targeted attack on the capital gazette that is located at 888 cascade road on the first floor.
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he entered the building with a shotgun, and he looked for his victims as he walked through the lower level. this person was prepared today to come in. this person was prepared to shoot people. his intent was to cause harm. and as i stated before the investigative part of this is going to be thorough and take some time. >> we've also got the latest on the president's continuing attempts to cast doubt on the russia investigation as he prepares for the summit with vladimir putin in just a few weeks. a lot to get to. i want to get right to the latest on the shooting today in the capital gazette, at the capital gazette in annapolis, maryland. and i want to bring in shimon. he is stationed there for us and bringing us the latest. we had a news conference about an hour ago. bring us up to speed on what happened.
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>> reporter: yeah, that news conference, don, they named the victims, the five people who were working inside this newsroom here at "the capital gazette" that is now a crime scene. and they continue to say, police, that they're interviewing the suspect. they're not telling us if he's cooperating. but since the shooting happened a lot has been learned concerning the suspect. his social media. police at this moment are at his home in laural, maryland, which is about 25 miles from here where they're waiting to search it. they're waiting for a search warrant. and they're looking for more evidence as exactly perhaps what caused him to come here today, open fire on these employees, these reporters, editors inside "the capital gazette" killing five of them, don, and now police are just really trying to focus on exactly what perhaps may have been the motive here, don. >> shimon, thank you very much. i appreciate that. i want to bring in now cnn's
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brian todd for more information. police released the victims' names tonight. >> just a short time ago the police did release the names in this attack. the first name is wendi winters who had been there for 15 to 20 years, a longtime writer for the paper. another person kill said, rebecca smith, identified as a salesperson for the newspaper, gerald fischman, and john mcnamara as a writer for the paper. we're told he covered sports with reporting this gunman did issue threats, there were threats issued via social media. not necessarily against any one
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person in the newspaper but the newspaper in general. we also have an account here from a woman name anne lipinski, a journalism professor at harvard, who apparently knows the family of robert hiaason. saying, quote, a birthday package from her husband still awaited her. and said rob had asked her if she wanted to open her gift thursday morning, but told him she's rather wait until he got home from work. a really heartbreaking story. also we're getting riveting accounts from survivors, what it was like in that newsroom as the gunman opened fire. a writer for the paper described him shooting through the windows as people cowered under the desks. this gentleman, mr. davis, heard the gunman reload. and we're also told the gunman himself, ramos, tried to evade officers when they interrupted
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this attack. he was found hiding under a desk himself elsewhere in the building. >> ms. lipinski's account, the wife, he was accounting and all these accounts just horrific. i want to bring in phil mudd and a former fbi agent. good evening to both of you. you heard shimon talk about the latest on the investigation. where do you think this is going? >> i'm sitting here thinking it's 7:15 a.m., but we would be sitting back talking with robert mueller, a couple different elements we would be talking about. the media is talking about motive. i don't think that would be primary in the investigation right now. it's a key question, but there's a couple of other questions. number one, are we sure we have pattern of life on this
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individual himself, now we know who he is. facebook, travel, credit cards, he has a vehicle. for a couple of reasons. did anybody participate with him? that's a criminal investigation. did anyone assist him, for example, even providing motivation, what you're doing is appropriate? did anyone even know were they cognizant of the fact he was going to go out and conduct an attack? before i sort of proved the negative, i proved that nobody else was involved. i'm not going to focus that much on motive. i want to focus on people. and i think overnight with interviews, for example, family, i want to know if anyone else knew. >> he went in stewart, there's no doubt of his intent because he went there with a shotgun and smoke grenades. >> no question about it, don. this was a guy who had an intent to go in and create as much havoc as possible. i have to tell you what's interesting, don, the fbi recently released a study on preattack behaviors.
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in 2017 there was 30 active shooting scenarios here in the united states. and quite interesting the majority of those active shooters took at least a week or longer to prepare before they actually engaged in their mass killings. the interesting thing with respect to this study was when they went out and reinterviewed or interviewed people that had associated themselves with the shooter most of the people if not all identified certain odd behaviorals. notwithstanding that none of them, or a majority of them did not bring it to the attention of law enforcement. i think it's going to be interesting in the coming days to see what interaction this individual had and why it is there was nothing done to intercept him before he actually did what he did today. >> between the time he had a lawsuit with the paper, he filed a defamation lawsuit in 2012 against the paper but that case was dismissed. but what happened in that time that caused him to go to these extremes? >> time out.
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let me throw a penalty flag out here in what i've seen in the past six hours or eight hours since the shooting. we have a phrase in the intelligence community, called rational active model. let me think about how i would think in this environment. what would motivate me to go into a newspaper and shoot somebody up? a lot of these cases you're talking about people who are emotionally disturbed. a fair number of cases in new york city, chicago, los angeles, in washington at the federal and state level and saying how do i understand the motive of somebody who is so emotionally disturbed that they themselves can't even articulate why they conduct an attack. my point is let's not assume that somebody in this state has a rational reason for doing this. it took us forever to even figure out the beginnings of why the las vegas shooter did this. let's not assume the reason for this shooting was rational in the way that we would think about it. >> of course, what's rational about what he did? but he had a connection to the
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paper. if he didn't have a connection to the paper i would say, okay it was -- >> but sure. we would sit there and say why would it take someone three years to do this, why wouldn't he have acted earlier and why wouldn't his family know? we're suggesting there's a thought process here, a path of thinking that's comprehensible to you and i who are rational. and i'm going to say i don't think it will be. >> okay, but isn't that part of figuring out what happened? >> it is. i think the most critical question is not what his motive was, not what happened at the newspaper, but a question what's happening in all the states of america. remember in florida, with the school shooting, there were so many interactions with the school shooter. the key question is whether interactions with the shooter that should have led somebody to say forget about gun control but on emotional stability this is someone where we should have laws that make it easier to say you shouldn't have weapons.
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five people killed today in what's being called a targeted attack on "the capital gazette." a hometown newspaper in annapolis, maryland. i want to bring in carl bernstein, mr. frank bruni, and max boot, the author of "the road not taken." good evening. here we are reporting on another mass shooting. frank, i'm going to start with you. five people are dead, multiple people wounded in another shooting. this time in a newsroom. what do you think? >> i mean, obviously it's heartbreaking, it's tragic. and i can't get out of my mind the words i heard on this news network earlier. one of the survivors was being interviewed, and who had mentioned also she covered the pulse shooting. and she said these words, a week
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from now no one's going to remember this or a week from now no one's going to be talking about this. and you hear that and you think that's impossible. but, no, she has every reason to be that skeptical and that pest mystic because we've become so accustomed to these and i think among the many questions we have to ask ourselves is why that is how we keep this in our conversations, in our minds in constructive ways so that maybe somehow we move beyond these incidents because they're way too frequent. >> what struck me as well she said i don't want to make this partisan, but we need -- she said we need way more than that because they were praying. they were praying at the time the shooting was happening. >> she mentioned that. but where's that going to get the next group of people the next time a shooter enters?
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>> i have to tuke talk about this and it's unbelievable. sean hannity drew a line from comments made by democratic congresswoman maxine waters. take a look at this clip from his radio show. >> we have multiple deaths also being report asked the sheriff is saying multiple fatalities in a newsroom shooting. good grief. so scary. i'm not turning this into a gun debate. i know that's where where the media will be 30 seconds from now. that's not it. honestly, i've been saying for days that something horrible is going to happen because of the rhetoric. really, maxine, you want people to create -- all your friends get in their faces, call your friends, get protesters, follow them into restaurants and shopping malls and whatever else she said. >> so this was this afternoon. this was right after we found out the shootings, before any facts came out.
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how does a tragedy -- how does this have anything to do with maxine waters? first of all, she didn't say anyone should be violent, right, first of all. and that was another bait and switch talking point. come on, sean can do better. >> this is this kind of insanely partisan perspective that sean hannity and a lot of people in this country have today where it doesn't matter what the facts are, they're going to shoe horn them into some existing position. in his case, hatred for democrats and trying to blame democrats for everything, which is nuts. to be nar i think there are also some democrats that are rushing to say this shooting has something to do with the fact trump is calling the press, the enemy of the american people, which is certainly abhorrent rhetoric. he clearly had a beef with this newspaper, unfortunately, a long running history and right now what we know today appears to be what motivated him. i think there's a tendency on both sides to jump in and use these tragedies as fodder for
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these partisan debates. that further poisons the political life of this country. we are not in this case but just in general i think we are being deeply hurt by this partisanship, this finger pointing. i think everybody needs to step back, but especially i think people like sean hannity and donald trump who are just demonizing the opposition in ways that interest deeply gross off our democracy. >> sean should take a step back and say i jumped the gun and apologizing. sean, be a big man and say i jumped the gun and i'm sorry. this is an awful tragedy to have information like that. >> this is not isolated. we can't isolate this. this is part of this greater phenomenon of a cold civil war that is going on in this country, in which there is an instinctive and reactive move by
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so many people who are determined to put everything into a cultural warfare context instead of being willing to look at complexity. instead of being willing to look at fact and having a fact based argument about the conditions of our country. and rather we resort, and it's particularly true of what we see in hannity there, very often in what hannity says, that everything fits into this neat little box of venom that he expresses. and there's venom going on from the president of the united states. there's venom going on from fox, and yes, there is venom going on also on the other side. but i think a lot of if it disproportionate. and what we saw from hannity is indicative of it. >> the white house press secretary sarah sanders tweeted this about the tragedy.
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a violent attack on innocent journalists, doing their jobs and is an attack on every american. our prayers are with the victims and their friends and families. so she did condemn the violent attack, and that's a quote. but journalists come on this program all the time. we hear them say they feel they're under attack, not a physical attack. they might be they feel from the president's rhetoric, right, and some of the supporters who say nasty things the president is saying the enemy of the people. but journalists feel they're under attack from the podium and from the president every day. >> and they are. they're under attack from her verbally, all the time. she's constantly digressing in her non-answers and in her evasions to take swipes at journalists and take verbal shots at them. so that statement from her rings sort of hollow given how fond she is at demonizing journalists. and everything that carl said is completely right.
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we were trending in this hyper-partisan direction before donald trump came along. but he has gleefully thrown fuel on this fire. and now it's at this point, and again we're stepping away from the shooter and talking about the general climate. it's at a point where you have a poll, "usa today," the fact they're even asking the poll question could you see a civil war in this country, and something like 33% of people saying yes, i could, how did we get here? one of the ways we got here is donald trump is the most inflammatory president at exactly the wrong time. >> carl believes we're in the midst of a cold civil war. i need you guys to stick around. i'm going to bring you all back. when we come back, does president trump have fewer checks on him than any other president in recent history, and how will he use his power to reshape america?
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president trump met tonight at the white house with key senators to discuss his pick to fill the latest supreme court vacancy. those senators including three democrats who were up for re-election in red states. back with me now carl bernstein, frank bruni and max boot. so, max, the president's power in this country is reaching a new level. he said trump will have fewer
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checks on his power than any president in his lifetime. what does that mean for our country? >> that's a pretty frightening situation. >> do you agree with that? >> i agree with that. you already see trump has accumulated vast power. with both houses of congress in republican hands, they're not standing up to him. they're not fighting back in the way they should be even when he is doing great violence to their purported believes, for example, these tariffs which most republicans on capitol hill purport to oppose. they're not doing much to take away his power on tariffs. many of them are actually enabling his attacks on the justice department and fbi. after rosenstein and chris wray. and now appointing a justice to fill justice kennedy's seat, in some ways trump is appointing his own jury because this is supreme court that could very well rule if mueller issues a subpoena, to get trump to
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testify, there could be further legal matters that come to the supreme court as this investigation unfolds, and there's no question trump is going to be looking for somebody who's going to be deferential to his power. as the supreme court was a couple days ago when they ruled in favor of his travel ban. i think the press is doing a great job trying to hold him accountable and some of the lower courts as well. but congress has done a horrible job, the supreme court has not done a great job unless the house changes over in november. >> i think that's a very big story i've been discussing with my team. what trump is doing to the judiciary at the appellate level and on and on and a lot of people don't know about that. and here we go. they're finally finding out about it. to your point you thought the media is doing a good job. we've often talked about the media now and then when you covered watergate. allen also writes the media, the last check on a president with
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total control of a government has lost trust of most republicans and many democrats after two years of trump pummeling. is that how you see it, mr. bernstein? >> well, i think that's very true that what the president has done in his unconscionable attacks on the press, because they undermine the role of a society and a free press that makes it possible for our system to work. and donald trump and the cold civil war he presides over is to make sure our system does not work. he is undoing the last 75 years of america's policies in the world and leading the world and the world order that was established after world war ii. and similarly at home, turning
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back the clock in terms of civil liberties, in terms of women's rights, in terms of abortion, right to abortion as we're seeing in his pronouncements in the last few days. and for what? to build his base? as frank bruni pointed out in his column today, he used to be a supporter of a woman's right to choose. i'm not sure he gives a damn about the abortion issue except as a means to hold on to power. and if you talk to the people that know him the best, they say that so much of this cold civil war that he is bringing to the point of ignition is to stay in office because of the mueller investigation. because underneath all is his fear and knowledge that mueller is on to what has gone on both in obstruction of justice, and if not collusion by the
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president himself, those around him in terms of doing the bidding of some of what president putin wants done and his interference in the campaign. that's what this is about. that's the bottom line. and he is willing to preside over a cold civil war and bring it to a fire storm for his own ends. >> not to mention whatever his business practice is. whatever. just finding out how it goes. i'm not saying it's good or bad, but mueller knows. >> that figures in this investigation. and this investigation includes his business practices in russia. >> okay, so listen, frank, your new column is entitled the cosmic joke of donald trump's power. and you write donald trump barely won the white house under circumstances a tainted opponent, 3 million fewer votes than she received, james comey's moral vanity and russia's a moral exertions that raise serious questions about how many americans yearned to see him there.
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but he's virtually assured of appointing justices to the supreme court as each of his three predecessors did. and could reshape american's lives even more significantly. it's the craziest dissonance and cruellest, too. how do you think donald trump is going to reshape this country? >> he's doing it with a tax overhaul, as max mentioned with tariffs before. issue after issue. what's so interesting as you step back and why i wrote that column, is he's doing all of this when he has such a tenuous claim to a mandate. when you look at the way he was elected, if he was a normal person he would govern with some humility and bipartisanship because he would look at some of those numbers and that was in the climate i mentioned in the column. he had a very flawed opponent. we know he had help from russia. we don't know whether it was
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consequential in terms of the outcome. we know from most analyses that comey did toward the end probably helped him. nothing about the way he's governed reflects that, and i think that's what makes his opponents so incredibly crazy and what makes this feel so surreal to so many americans. >> very interesting. he said in the coming decades or in a generation or two this country may be run by a minority of people, right, meaning demographically people who are in power holding on just because what donald trump is doing in the judiciary. the majority of the country won't have control of its fate. the minority of the country will be controlling that. >> donald trump is basically a minority president and yet he's ruling in a very underhanded
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fashion. and i blame the republicans on the hill for letting him get away with it. it's crazy how the cult of donald trump has developed. republicans are afraid to press back on him against anything, even though he's doing great damage and violence to what they have stood for decades. all these things he's trashing and they're letting him get away with it. they have a chance now with this supreme court nominee who's coming up. it's a very thin majority in the senate. if you just had two or three republicans who said we're not going to give you a bill until you agree with a law that supports robert mueller, if you abuse tariffs, they can do that. are they going to do that? i think the odds are against them. >> i was going to say good luck. when we come back, almost 600 people arrested on capitol hill today. protesting against the president's immigration policy. one of those arrested, a congresswoman. she joins me next.
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more than 1,000 people
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mostly women marching on capitol hill today protesting the president's administration's zero-tolerance policy that's led to the separation of more than 2,000 children from their parents. 575 people were arrested for unlawfully demonstrating including a congresswoman, a democrat from washington and she joins me now. thank you for joining us. how are you doing? >> i'm doing well. i'm doing well. it was an incredibly inspiring protest, incredibly inspiring civil disobedience, as representative john lewis like to say, it's good trouble. and i think that's what people were doing today is drawing attention to the fact we've got kids in cages on the borders, people in prisons when they're trying to seek asylum. it's not politics.
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it's about right and wrong, and it was incredible to see all those women out there today. courageous, strong and fighting for women who are in prison, mothers who are in prison and trying to be reunited with their mothers. >> just to be clear, i want our viewers to know again, you were arrested for protesting for these immigrant families. i know that you would -- you know, there's a lot to be done here, but do you feel your voices are being heard? >> you know, i do, don. i'll tell you that obviously a lot of things have happened in the last few days, but i think the last two weeks have been really consumed by this issue. and americans across the country, democrats, republicans and independents say this is wrong. they cannot believe this is happening. and outrage has been real. the idea that this president would pass a zero-tolerance, zero humanity policy and separate children from their parents, put these kids in cages, i think it's got everybody across the country outraged. and so those voices, i think, where being heard.
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obviously the last few days we've had a lot of things going on. but on saturday there will be a massive round of protests across it country. there are 400,000 people who have signed up, people who are going to be wearing white at rallies across the country. every single state across the country, i think it's 650 events including a big one here in d.c. at lafayette square at 11:00 a.m., and that's because people believe this has to be changed. and you know what? the president put this policy into place. he can pick up his phone and tweet at secretary nielsen and jeff sessions and tell them to reverse this policy. that's all it takes. and then we've got to reunite these kids because right now hhs and dhs have no idea -- >> let me ask you about that. immigrant children as young as 3 being ordered to appear in court alone without their parents or any representation, how can a 3-year-old be expected to advocate for themselves?
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>> they can't. and that's just the point. it is horrendous, and i've worked on immigration issues for long time. so i really know this area, and there are lots of things that are wrong with this system. but when i went and met with the 174 women held in a federal prison who had been transferred from the texas border and i heard their stories of children being ripped from them, forcibly separated, no chance to say good-bye, did not know where they were, had been held in some cases more than a month, had no idea where they children were. and, you know, don, i'm a mother and i honestly don't even have words for how i would feel if that happened. and i think that's what's happening across the country is people are looking at this and saying how could this be on u.s. soil. and then you see the pictures of the kids in cages and you hear the audio of these kids weeping for their children.
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we had two shadow hearings on the hill last week. the representative and i co-chaired and we had two shadow hearings. and we had the president of the american association of pediatrics come and speak with us -- >> you said it's child abuse, right? i want to get this in before we run out of time because i think it's important. because today the deputy attorney general rod rosenstein claims the federal government knows where every child is. you took issue with that. listen to this. >> asylum seekers who are being imprisoned, mothers who told me their children have been stripped from them, one them as as young as 1 years old, and attorney general, i don't believe that the administration knows even where these children are, who they belong to. >> congresswoman, i appreciate you raising that. i met just the other day with secretary azar, and he was quite emphatic that is false story. hhs knows where every one of those children are. >> attorney general, let me just stop you for one second to tell
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you of my personal experience, i i was surrounded by the warden of the prison as well as a number of employees who can corroborate exactly what i'm saying to you. >> he said it was a false story. your response? >> i told him it wasn't. i saw a slip of paper of a woman's name and children's names, and she told me those are not my children. they were the wrong children assigned to those parents. i'm convinced that dhs, hhs does not know where the children are and who they belong to. it's absolutely outrageous. >> congresswoman pramila, thank you so much. i appreciate it. when we come back, the protests on capitol hill, just the latest example of women galvanized by the trump presidency. are they leading the opposition to the president? ahh... summer is coming. and it's time to get outside. pack in even more adventure with audible. with the largest selection of audiobooks. audible lets you follow plot twists off the beaten track. or discover magic when you hit the open road.
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many people have their crystal balls out there predicting upcoming mid-term elections will make 2018 the year of the woman. so i want to bring in alice stuart, angela rye and joe trippy. i just spoke with representative
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pramila jayapal. she was arrested today for protesting family separations. this is an issue where women on both sides of the aisle no matter where you stand can relate to politically, correct? >> yes, absolutely. i hope we're not at it point, don, whether it's just women, whether mothers or not, i hope this is an issue that unites all the american people. people who have children in their family, sit next to children at church, teach children in schools. this shouldn't just be about women and mothers. this should be an issue where we look at kids and say no matter who you are, where you are, how old you are, you shouldn't be separated from your parent. you were talking to the congresswoman about a kid as young as 1 years old, we all read about the child who was 3 years old and a judge asked the kid what his name was and he
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replied in spanish oh, a plane. these are heart wrenching stories. it's traumatic and sticks with them throughout the lives. just for a moment i can't imagine what these kids are going through. and it shouldn't be something that's partisan at all. it should be something about just decent humanity. >> there are some real concerns from folks out there that roe v. wade could be overturned. what is the likelihood of that happening? and if so that may have some unintended consequences for an election. >> sure, the likelihood of that happening is extremely high. and i say that because the president has made it quite clear that one of the things that he intends to do and he did with neil gorsuch was to appoint attorney scalia-like justices. and he's done that more than once and now has the opportunity to do that once again. as you mentioned in the program the president spent this evening
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meeting with senators across the aisle and getting their input when and how and who to go about moving forward with this appointment. but i have no doubt whatsoever that he will appoint a conservative leaning justice to fill that spot, and i have no doubt that we will have many issues not just roe v. wade the abortion issue but same-sex marriage, gun control, voting rights issues, all of these will be important issues coming before the court. one thing is this will motivate voters this will get voters out. the idea of conservative justice is comfort food to evangelical base. and they will turn out voters more than ever before. >> we're talking about women. i have to get joe in. president trump loves to say that he won the support of women in the general election but that is not correct. it's incorrect.
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he won with white women, right? so what role are women going to play in the midterms? >> well, look, you've seen already, it's women in the democratic party that are the most energized and the ones that have been volunteering, really carrying the party on their backs literally in a lot of these victories that have happened, the doug jones in alabama, connor lamb and others. the more significant thing is the number of suburban republican women and younger republican women that are moving away, actually thinking for the first time about voting for a democrat. that again happened in alabama and in connor lamb's race in pennsylvania and northham's race in virginia for governor. so what i think is happening is yes, all -- this was before
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separating children from their families, you know, when they're picked up on the border. or roe v. wade being in tremendous jeopardy now with a second appointment for the supreme court by trump. i actually think it's -- people may be reading this all wrong. that it'll be women that are both energized among democrats but also exhausted by what this president is doing on the republican side. >> yeah. >> it's those women, the republican women that leave that are going to be the problem. it could be big in november. >> angela, in recent days we have seen the president continue to attack hillary clinton, nancy pelosi, maxine waters on twitter. he thinks it's good for him -- i'm not sure why i want to ask this question because he attacked republican women during the primary during the arena and
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he's president, so do you think that's a good strategy for him to continue doing it? >> i think it depends on what his strategy is. if it's to continue to gin up his base, to encourage death threats of women in congress, if it is to, you know, further divide the nation and lean into hatred and violence, then yeah it's a great strategy. unfortunately it's not a good long-term strategy for moving the country forward, uniting people making sure we can walk off into the sunset happily ever after. that's not what's going to happen based on his tactics. it's going to further the divide. the supreme court -- the opportunity to pick a supreme court justice, nominate a supreme court justice gins up voters maybe evangelical voters but on the other hand you're seeing progressive women all over capitol hill, all over twitter because they are energized as well. people are tired of donald trump's rhetoric and the results
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actions coming out of it. >> i have 30 seconds here, alice. i want to say democratic women kept winning in tuesday's primary, including in new york city, defeating the incumbent. you heard what joe said, democratic women are energized and republican women are energized as well, is that concerning? >> i think the damage that was done with regard to the separations of the families at the border and the support from women that the president lost on the republican side, anyway, he's going to make up a lot of ground on the supreme court side, because the pro-life issue or women's issues are so important for conservative women and they're going to come out in full force from that standpoint. that being said, it's encouraging to see more women get involved. it's encouraging to see women on both sides of the aisle get involved in politics.
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on the democrat side i think women on the democrat side are going to be key. we're seeing the political report saying they're outdoing men by 15 points. it's good to see fresh blood in politics, even if it comes at the hurt of president trump. it's good to see them. >> thank you all, appreciate it. we'll be right back. it's time for the 'lowest prices of the season'
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when this week's cnn hero learned kids in his community were sleeping on the floor, he went from business man to bedmaker. what started as a single good deed helping one family in idaho soon spread to helping 3,000 children across america, help them get a good night sleep. meet luke nickelson. >> mattresses, sheets. i'm just a farm kid from idaho i grew up here. what i didn't know was there's kids next door who are struggling. they had kids sleeping on the floor. i was making six figure salary but i fell into this need that i discovered wasn't being fulfilled by anybody. i quit my job because i wanted to do this full time. the need i have isn't financial. the need i have is seeing the joy on kids' faces knowing i can
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